In this special rooftop conversation overlooking Jerusalem, Doug and Pesach sit down with two pastors from the Eagles’ Wings trip—Pastor Joe Green and Pastor Mike Omoniyi—to reflect on their journey through the Land of Israel. Pastor Joe, a longtime advocate for Israel, shares the origin story of how his connection to the Jewish people began. Pastor Mike, a dynamic young leader from London, recounts his first trip to Israel just a year ago and how it led him to return with five members of his own church. Together, they discuss what drew them into the Israel conversation, the challenges they’ve faced along the way, and why experiencing Israel transforms faith from 2D to 3D.

🎙 Recorded on a Jerusalem rooftop, this is Shoulder to Shoulder at its best—authentic, insightful, and alive with the sounds of the city that tells God’s story.