Pesach and Doug sit down with Stephen & Veronica Jenks in person in Jerusalem. Stephen and Veronica recount the Jewish-Christian relationship from their vantage point with Eagles Wings, and the dynamic shift that has taken since October 7th. Veronica toured the carnage and results of the terrorist attack a year later at a kibbutz, the nova festival, as well as the burnt out cars on the sides of the road. She gives first hand account of her time there on this trip to Israel. And the four discuss the theological implications of this trip, and the ways that the Jewish-Christian story may be entering a new era.